School Committee Says No to Allowing Unseated Members Giving Goals Evaluations
Monday night's discussion on the proposed new policy pitted arguments of respect for democracy versus respect for accrued experience.
Every summer, the Westford School Committee evaluates how the Superintendent of Schools performed in achieving their yearly stated goals, but should recently unelected School Committee members get to submit "lame duck" evaluations on their way out of office?
On Monday night, the School Committee said they should not after three motions on the proposed policy and debate between respecting the will of the voters versus respecting accrued experience of outgoing members.
The policy, P2103, requires the Superintendent to file a self-assessment on how they believe they met their stated goals for the year (policy P2012), which is then graded by members of the Committee in June.
Proposed amendments to the policy would have allowed outgoing School Committee members who had just lost their seats on the board during Town Elections a few weeks earlier to provide their grades due to the insights they had obtained during the length of their term, serving as a non-voting guest evaluator.
Supporters of the proposed change, such as School Committee member Margaret Murray, noted that the average time in office for a Westford School Committee member is only one to two terms, with some elections providing several new members on the board.
"I think people who serve on the School Committee for a year alongside the Superintendent have a greater depth of knowledge than that of those who may just watch meetings on occasion," said Murray.
On the other side of the argument, chairwoman Angela Harkness believed the proposal flew in the face of the democratic process itself, noting that the proposed policy change would make comments from the outgoing member mandatory.
"If the voters are inclined not to elect somebody, for us as ongoing sitting members to solicit opition on such an important function is wrong," said Harkness. "Nobody asked Richard Nixon to come back and talk about the Secretary of State or China after he left, even though he was an expert."
Harkness also added the difference between opinion and information, noting that the board welcomes information from anyone, and that it already can voluntarily solicit information or opinions from those it chooses or those who testify in open forum parts of meetings.
Murray moved to amend the proposed change to remove calling the outgoing School Committee member as a "subject matter expert", which was approved 4-3, with Harkness, David Keele and Terrence Ryan voting in opposition.
However, approval of the proposal was defeated 2-5, with only Murray and Erica Kohl voting in support.
The policy as a whole, excluding the portion adding the outgoing member's role altogether, was approved by a vote of 6-1, with Keele voting in opposition.
Although Murray said that the Massachusetts Department of Elementary and Secondary Education requires each district to have a policy comparable to this one, and that this one was not in compliance, Keele disagreed, stating that the old version of the policy was fine was it was.
"We're changing the policy for the sake of changing it," said Keele.
Keele also disapproved of the timeline relating to the initial goals, citing that the timeline should be more truncated to avoid needless analysis and second guessing by the board.
Superintendent Bill Olsen replied to this viewpoint by stating the timeline was mainly there for the sake of staff member schedules.
Outgoing School Committee member Judith Culver said prior to the vote that she would not participate in next June's goals evaluation regardless of board's decision.
The board also unanimously approved a new policy (P5115) specifying residency procedures when a student's family lives in a property bisected by multiple towns.
Specifically, the policy says the location of the house is the main criterion for what town the student should go to school in, with the student's bedroom being used if the house itself is in more than one town, and common sense being the main deciding factor if even the bedroom has the town border going through it.
Dan C
6:13 am on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
Please stop talking about things which you have no clue, and apparently now this isnt just what constitutes a fair teacher contract negotiation but has been extended US Political History as well (as a Lawyer one should well understand the perils about making public statement NOT based on fact/ reality but on what just works best for you at the time. Danger Danger will Robinson. I see a theme here!)
Clinton and Nixon DID work together on Foreign Policy as Clinton understood the experience and perspective a elder statesman (even a disgraced one) Like Tricky Dick could bring to the table:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/nixon-foreign-policy-advice-bill-clinton-revealed-article-1.1264304
I suppose there was still only one student found with drugs during last year's dog search right?????????? Enough already. Time for new leadership in the BOS and SC!!!
Andrew Sylvia
9:43 am on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
Devil's Advocate Time... Dan, should Clinton have been constitutionally required to ask Nixon for advice?
Dan C
6:16 am on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
IRONIC: "Harkness also added the difference between opinion and information"
Dan C
6:18 am on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
"We're changing the policy for the sake of changing it," said Keele.
Hey! Look who just joined us! Welcome to education in the Westford Public Schools!
Steven Sadowski
10:54 am on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
I keep reading disparaging comments made about Westford Schools on the Patch blogs. Can someone please help me understand this? From my perspective, Westford Schools are in or close to the top 10 in the state. Now are they perfect? No, of course not. Are there drug issues, teacher morale issues, bureaucracies, state mandates, etc? Yes, but come on people, would you rather be Brockton with all that AND failing schools and worthless real estate values?
Sam
11:24 am on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
Steve-
You are seeing perhaps 4-5 disgruntled teachers post to the blogs because they didn't get their step raises last year. It does not matter what the topic, they post. How morale of teachers is shot, how there is a brain drain with people leaving, how other towns pay more, how can we spend more money when we didn't give our teachers their raise, and on and on. If Westford gave them what they wanted last year you would not hear a peep of any of them. Go to town meeting and watch they all vote with glee to approve an over inflated budget. It happens every year. Why would they automatically do this? Because they get paid. End of story. Even last year when negotiations were ongoing they voted yea. Who cares about the town and its fiscal mess, we are voting yes so they will pay us.
Vincent DiRico
11:47 am on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
What Sam said x 2. They were not the only group asked to give a bit but they sure have cornered the market in whining! Any misused words there :O
Reader
12:19 pm on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
There is a small but very vocal group of residents (or readers) who are anti-teacher.
Vincent DiRico
3:59 pm on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
no pot of gold == anti-teacher
try again
and once again they were not the only group asked to sacrifice last time
Amber B.
8:38 am on Wednesday, February 27, 2013
I'm not a disgruntled teacher, I'm a parent in town and while the schools are ranked well, it has less to do with pedagogy or teaching and more to do with (as studies have shown) overall socioeconomic status and demographics.
June McMorrow
1:19 pm on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
I am not a teacher and am not anti-teacher. I am a concerned tax payer who wants the best town services at the best price. Is there anything wrong with that? When Whole Foods finally moves into their new location in Westford, it is unlikely that I will shop there. Perhaps for a Holiday treat or something really special, but not everyday. It is just not in my budget.
My recollection of last year was that all of the bargaining units in town agreed to no increase in pay. Furthermore, if any of the other bargaining units were able to negotiate a raise for themselves, then all of the contracts would've re-opened.
Having said that, I feel that we really need to hold our Board Members, Town Manager accountable. We all need to get to ATM.
And, I promise no quickies at Paul's beforehand. I'll be there at 10:00 on the dot this year.
June McMorrow
1:28 pm on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
Oh and one more thing to the question being discussed. I have to agree with Margaret Murray on this issue. Those who have worked alongside of Supt. Bill Olsen ought to be the ones who are doing the goals evaluations for that particular school year.
Newbies can put in their .02 cents after they have put in a full year on issues relevant to School Committee topics.
dweir
2:03 pm on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
@June I completely disagree. Hiring and oversight of the Superintendent is one of the most important responsibilities of the SC. If the SC wants to ensure current members evaluate the Superintendent, they should push forward the process so that it is complete before town election.
However, the bigger problem is the "A for effort" mentality that typically forms the basis of the evaluation grades. The Supt.'s evaluation should be based on meeting measurable results -- test scores, attrition rates, and other performance criteria -- any of which could be effectively evaluated by new and old members alike.
Amber B.
8:40 am on Wednesday, February 27, 2013
Agreed. Moving the evaluation date back makes a lot more sense.
Ghost
3:07 pm on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
If you think the extent of the low teacher morale is 4-5 disgruntled teachers posting on Patch you are out of touch, the schools and students are excellent. A MAJORITY of teachers harbor very strong feelings over their treatment last year and continued instances of teachers feeling left out and left behind when important educational decisions are made.
If next years negotiations look anything similar to last years than buckle up and hold on. The fact that WPS teachers have little/ no confidence in those steering the ship should be a concern to residents with kids in the system. I repeat, NOT only about lack of steps Sam
Steven Sadowski
3:46 pm on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
You see, this is what happens when an essential service is paid for by the town/govt. Eventually, the workers want a raise +/or control. Unfortunately the people paying for those/delegating that are the taxpayers. So these disputes arise leading to strike threats, and layoffs, and all kinds of nasty quid pro quo. What is left after the conflict are hard feelings, resentment and lingering bitterness that only taints the next round of discussions. These posts are replete with anger and animus. What both sides have to realize is that the current way services are delivered and paid for is an antiquated paradigm. What we have now is like Blockbuster video--slowly being consumed by a superior delivery mechanism. Privatization of all town services except police (because their pervue reaches into the judicial branch) and an infusion of free market mechanisms will bring choice, smaller class rooms, higher wages for teachers without sacrificing standards---but most importantly end the perennial battles between the taxpayers and govt. unions.
Vincent DiRico
4:10 pm on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
"If you think the extent of the low teacher morale is 4-5 disgruntled teachers posting on Patch you are out of touch"
-> so these drive-by comments full of slanderous accusations against the SC, admins and even the students are being written by ???
"continued instances of teachers feeling left out and left behind when important educational decisions are made"
-> IF that is true then they should look for new representation/leadership
"next years negotiations ... "
-> do we really have to endure another year of this? seat belt fastened, $ is not the problem, fire away with the law suits, just make sure they are not duds this time
Sam
3:27 pm on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
Sorry Ghost. I stand by my statement. If you got your cash we wouldn't hear boo from you.
McGirk
5:00 am on Wednesday, February 27, 2013
Override talk, behind closed doors, is fermenting for next year. Because we can all agree the 'Sadowski Voucher Model' isnt going to be implemented in the next 12-24 months; we are at a crossroads.
Where do we go from here?
Please think about this question THIS YEAR at ATM when you vote to approve a $49 Million School budget that includes hundreds of thousands $$$ in new positions that the walls just close in that much more for next year. If you vote YES now be prepared to vote the same YES in next year's Prop 2.5 override to sustain the freight train!
Last year ALL our unions were forced to sacrifice and 'take one for the team' please dont slap them in the face by taking the 'savings' and spending it on new positions that we honestly cant afford moving forward in the next several years. Its as irresponsible as Uncle Bob Jeff's ban the guns trample the constitution plan. ENOUGH!
Andrew Sylvia
7:56 am on Wednesday, February 27, 2013
What closed doors?
Steven Sadowski
8:22 am on Wednesday, February 27, 2013
I like that, "The Sadowski Voucher Model" or "SVM".
Local
5:26 am on Thursday, February 28, 2013
Ask Harkness and Olsen about this years preliminary discussions...the seed has more than been planted (not publicly) that the schools are going to ask for a override next year.
I think rather than just voting NO next year residents should show up at town meeting and ask tough questions of our school leadership about bringing more people aboard, no matter how nice they would be to have, a year before the poop hits the fan fiscally in town. Irresponsible!
Residents with children in the system- please pay close attention now as things are headed for rocky waters next year and the course is being charted now! When coaches resign for sports or college letters aren't being written teachers will be blamed for their actions, lets hold leadership accountable for their actions before it gets to that
Fullmer
6:01 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Override gets a Yes vote from me if there are no new non mandated positions in this year's budget, teachers gonna get RIFT left and right if we keep up this toomfoolery
Dan
8:11 am on Sunday, March 17, 2013
Jesse James says in another post that the School Committee is artificially inflating the Special Education costs to cover the negotiated teacher contract from last year? Anyone have anything further? Proof Jesse? I am not unwilling to believe but would like to see/hear more. Something doesn't smell right
Alex Finnegan
4:34 pm on Sunday, April 7, 2013
I did it here
http://westford.patch.com/articles/school-committee-recommends-new-fy-14-budget-to-voters
Alex Finnegan
4:41 pm on Sunday, April 7, 2013
They also always underestimate revenue by almost a million dollars, thats not easy with the size of the numbers they are talking about. Did a complete spreadsheet about the SPED kids. I used only towns with similar enrollment populations, I used enrollment, sped enrollment, % of sped, # of teachers, # os SPED teachers, % of sped teachers, child to teacher ratio, average salary, average teacher age, avg home value and property tax rates. I can email it to you if you want legalcontractsMA@gmail.com or if someone has a place where we can host it that would be great.
But needless to say Westford has by far the fewest sped kids, fewest sped teachers, etc. So this Olsen statement that sped children are part of the financial burden is blatantly unsubstantiated. Many schools have 2-3 TIMES the # sped kids Westford has with similar overall enrollment.